BBC Radio Podcasts from Jermain Defoe: Outside The Box

16. Bonus Episode: The Full Conversation with Paul Konchesky

Jemain heads back to West Ham to speak to their Women's team manager Paul Konchesky.

Jermain and former SAS soldier Mark 'Billy' Billingham talk about leadership and more.

Jermain chats with Sol Campbell about the ex-centreback's football management experience.

Jermain's former boss Harry Redknapp gives him advice on becoming a football manager.

In the final episode of Outside the Box, Jermain attends his first job interview.

Jermain considers whether coaching abroad, or in the WSL are options for him.

Jermain takes an emotional trip to the North East to see the family of Bradley Lowery.

Jermain talks to current and former managers about the overwhelming stress of the job.

Jermain discovers what the media can offer him as a pundit - and as a manager.

Jermain tackles racism in football and asks why there are so few jobs for black managers.

Jermain discovers how to use the communication tools he possesses via an unusual source.

Jermain goes back to his first club, and meets a former SAS commander to talk leadership.

As his journey towards management continues, Jermain travels to Brighton and Hove Albion.

Jermain travels to the meet the Derby manager to find out about life in the lower leagues.

Jermain visits some of his former managers as he sets out on his own managerial journey.

Jermain travels back to the estate he grew up on as he begins his journey into management.

Jermain Defoe’s journey to uncover what happens when the cheering stops.