BBC Radio Podcast Guide - B

Business Matters

Business Matters

Global business news, with live guests and contributions from Asia and the USA.

Business Daily

Business Daily

The daily drama of money and work from the BBC.

Bad Cops

Bad Cops

In Baltimore, Maryland, an elite group of plainclothes officers called the Gun Trace Task Force gets hundreds of illegal guns off the streets every year. Secretly, however, these detectives are also robbing people, selling drugs, planting evidence and framing innocent people. When some of the officers go too far, it triggers an FBI investigation that reveals the Gun Trace Task Force as one of the most corrupt police squads in American policing history. Jessica Lussenhop tells the story of the rise and fall of this once-powerful unit of officers, and its leader Sergeant Wayne Jenkins. And she asks: why do good cops go bad?

Boston Calling

Boston Calling

How the world looks through American eyes, and the myriad and unexpected ways that the world influences the United States.

BBC Learning English Drama

BBC Learning English Drama

Dramas for English language learners from BBC World Service. Improve your English with retellings of stories classic and new. Each episode is between 6 and 10 minutes long.

BBC Writers

BBC Writers

BBC Writers seeks out fresh voices, championing writer talent from across the UK and Republic of Ireland. We support, develop and challenge writers throughout their careers, across the BBC.

Blue Planet II: The Podcast

Blue Planet II: The Podcast

Take a look behind the scenes of making Blue Planet II and further uncover our hidden underwater world. With insights from Sir David Attenborough, Becky Ripley and Emily Knight dig deeper into the series to uncover even more about our hidden, underwater world. Plus exclusive interviews from the people who made it, you can expect mind blowing facts, exclusive access and a fascinating look at the deep sea. Presented by Becky Ripley and Emily Knight.

BBC Young Musician

BBC Young Musician

Jess Gillam hosts the podcast about young musicians, for young musicians. Special guests every episode, with a new show every week.

Best of Nolan

Best of Nolan

Stephen Nolan's no nonsense approach to confronting the biggest issues of the day: an unmissable mixture of news, phone ins and entertainment. From BBC Radio Ulster

Blas Pod

Blas Pod

Podchraoladh: Inneachar tráthúil fuaime ó fhoireann BBC Blas.

Big Comic Energy

Big Comic Energy

Award-winning Irish comedian Catherine Bohart hosts as social media stars try stand-up comedy for the first time.

Book Week NI

Book Week NI

Poetry, prose, fiction and non-fiction –the joy of reading is brought to life through informed discussion and debate from BBC NI.

Best of Vinny Hurrell

Best of Vinny Hurrell

Highlights from Vinny's late-night magazine show on BBC Radio Ulster.

Baza Muganga

Baza Muganga

Ikiganiro ku bibazo by’ubuzima. Ibisubizo bitangwa n’abaganga ku bibazo twakiriye.

Bad People

Bad People

Murderers. Fraudsters. Internet trolls. This is a podcast about people who do terrible things, and the science of humanity’s dark side. Series producer: Louisa Field Artwork: Kingsley Nebechi Music: Matt Chandler Editors: Anna Lacey and Martin Smith Academic Consultants for The Open University: Dr Ailsa Strathie Dr Sarah Laurence Commissioning Assistant Producer: Adam Eland Commissioning Executive: Dylan Haskins Bad People is produced in partnership with The Open University and is a BBC Audio Science Production for BBC Sounds.

Blood on the Dance Floor

Blood on the Dance Floor

The untold story of the murder of a gay police officer in Northern Ireland in 1997. Belfast 1997. But not just any part of Belfast, gay Belfast. A place you've probably never heard of before. Cigarette smoke, aftershave and expectation fill the air in the only gay bar in the country. Sat having a drink on a night out is Darren Bradshaw. He was just 24 years old when he was shot dead in front of hundreds of people. His brutal murder by terrorists sparked fears of a return to all out violence as the new Labour government under Tony Blair sought to bring peace to Northern Ireland - on the road to the Good Friday Agreement. This is the untold story of his life and murder. A story of both love and eventually betrayal. Presenter Jordan Dunbar grew up in the city, he was a comedian and drag performer on the Belfast scene and yet this murder and Darren's life was never talked about. Following Darren's story brings to life the struggle of being gay in The Troubles, how Belfast got its first Pride parade only in 1991 and its very first openly gay club in 1994 -The Parliament bar where Darren was tragically shot dead. It's a community surviving as well as thriving against a backdrop of violence and discrimination. He meets the original drag queens, DJs and club pioneers determined to claim back the city centre from the terrorists and create a safe place of their own. Determined to piece together for the first time how Darren was killed that night and why, Jordan uncovers stories of bigotry, bravery and betrayal. Reporter: Jordan Dunbar Series Producer: Paul Grant Producer: Patrick Kiteley Technical Production and Sound Design: Craig Boardman Additional technical production: Nicky Edwards and Richard Hannaford Journalism Assistants: Tim Fernley and Jordan King Production Manager: Sarah Payton Assistant Commissioner: Lorraine Okuefuna Commissioning Editors: Richard Maddock and Dylan Haskins Editor and Executive Producer: Carl Johnston

Bugzy Malone’s Grandest Game

Bugzy Malone’s Grandest Game

It’s the game that shocked and thrilled the world: Grand Theft Auto. Its rise to domination is an incredible story. Rapper Bugzy Malone played it through his hardest times. And he’s going deep.

Burn Wild

Burn Wild

For more than a decade two mugshots of fugitive environmentalists have sat amongst airplane hijackers, bombers and murders on the FBI’s Most Wanted Domestic Terrorists list. One of the photos is of a tall, hipster looking engineer from Seattle. He’s wearing a red shirt, has a light shadowy beard. His name: Joseph Mahmoud Dibee. The other photo is of a young white woman with thick eyebrows, piercing brown eyes and long brown hair. Across her back is a large tattoo: a bird with its wings outstretched, soaring. Her name: Josephine Sunshine Overaker. To the authorities, Joseph Mahmoud Dibee and Josephine Sunshine Overaker are dangerous, violent extremists, part of an eco-terrorist movement that in 2005 the then Deputy Assistant Director of the FBI called the number one domestic terror threat in America. And now one of them - Joseph Dibee - has been caught. For the past eighteen months journalist Leah Sottile has been recording with Joe Dibee as his case progresses through the courts and as she works to understand the truth behind the mugshots and how they ended up here. Burn Wild is a story of radical environmentalism and morality that journeys into one of the most thorny and murky questions of our time: How far is too far to go to stop the planet burning? Answering this will take Leah and producer Georgia Catt into radical activist communities past and present on both sides of the Atlantic, amongst people who’ve spent their lives running from the authorities, and those who carry the weight of that word - terrorist - on their shoulders. In this story people will take away very different things on what they hear, but where you sit isn’t a question of the past. It’s a question of right now. CREDITS Presenter: Leah Sottile Producer: Georgia Catt Written by: Leah Sottile and Georgia Catt Fact Checking: Rob Byrne Music and Sound Design: Phil Channell Music including theme music by Echo Collective, composed performed and produced by Neil Leiter & Margaret Hermant; recorded, mixed and produced by Fabien Leseure Artwork by Danny Crossley with Art Direction by Amy Fullalove Script recorded and mixed by Slater Swan at Anjuna Recording Studio Series Mixing and Studio Engineer: Sarah Hockley Editor: Philip Sellars Assistant Commissioner: Natasha Johansson Commissioner: Dylan Haskins Burn Wild is a BBC Audio Documentaries Production for BBC Sounds and BBC Radio 5 Live.

Bunce's Tales of the Extraordinary

Bunce's Tales of the Extraordinary

Steve Bunce’s A to Z of the Winter Olympics.

Brixton: Flames on the Frontline

Brixton: Flames on the Frontline

Forty years ago Brixton burned. It was the people versus the police. Violence erupted on the streets. What happened changed the face of Britain – for everyone. Big Narstie finds out why.

BeSpoke: at the Tour de France

BeSpoke: at the Tour de France

Gareth Rhys Owen, Rob Hayles and Simon Brotherton bring you a daily podcast from the 2019 Tour de France, as Geraint Thomas defends the title he won last year for Team Ineos (then Team Sky). Follow the team @5liveSport, via the BBC Sport website, and use the hashtag #BBCycling to get in touch.

Bump Club

Bump Club

5 live's Bump Club follows families through their experience of pregnancy and birth. Every Sunday morning from 11am with Edith Bowman and Colin Murray

Birthday Girls' House Party

Birthday Girls' House Party

Comedy sketch group Birthday Girls, aka Beattie, Camille and Rose, invite you to their house party. Expect late-night chats with nothing off-limits, veggie Scotch eggs and party legends.

BBC Radio Scotland Rugby Podcast

BBC Radio Scotland Rugby Podcast

Andy Burke and Tom English with all the news, analysis and interviews on what's happening in the World of Scottish rugby

Breaking the News

Breaking the News

Topical comedy panel show takes a satirical view of the week's headlines.

Bible John: Creation of a Serial Killer

Bible John: Creation of a Serial Killer

Journalist Audrey Gillan digs back into the story of the Bible John murders, this time exploring the lives of the three victims, and uncovers a whole other story that she and everyone else had missed completely.

Brainwaves

Brainwaves

Pennie Latin explores the science behind our everyday experiences and speaks to key scientists working in Scotland.

Best of Today

Best of Today

Insight, analysis and expert debate as key policy makers are challenged on the latest news stories.

Books and Authors

Books and Authors

This podcast features Open Book and A Good Read. Open Book talks to authors about their work. In A Good Read Harriett Gilbert discusses favourite books.

Broadcasting House

Broadcasting House

The Sunday morning magazine programme with a fresh approach to the news and discussion about the big stories of the week. Presented by Paddy O'Connell.

BBC Inside Science

BBC Inside Science

A weekly programme that illuminates the mysteries and challenges the controversies behind the science that's changing our world.

Beyond Belief

Beyond Belief

Series exploring the place and nature of faith in today's world

Bookclub

Bookclub

Led by James Naughtie, a group of readers talk to acclaimed authors about their best-known novels

Best Medicine

Best Medicine

Award-winning comedian Kiri Pritchard-McLean is joined by funny and fascinating comedians, doctors, scientists, and historians to celebrate medicine's inspiring past, present and future. In each programme, Kiri challenges her guests to make a case for what they think is 'the best medicine', and each of them champions anything from world-changing science to an obscure invention, an every-day treatment, an uplifting worldview, an unsung hero or a futuristic cure. Whether it's micro-robotic surgery, virtual reality syringes, Victorian clockwork surgical saws, more than a few ingenious cures for cancer, world-first lifesaving heart operations, epidurals, therapy, dancing, faith or laughter - it's always something worth celebrating.

Being Roman with Mary Beard

Being Roman with Mary Beard

Beneath the starched togas and the pungent fug of gladiator sweat there are real Romans waiting to be discovered. Mary Beard uncovers six fascinating stories from the Empire.

BBC National Short Story Award

BBC National Short Story Award

Stories shortlisted for the National Short Story Award

Best Men

Best Men

Jason Manford and Steve Edge’s new podcast all about one of the most important jobs a bloke can face in his lifetime. And like all good best man speeches, it’s full of laughs and heart.

Brexit: A Guide for the Perplexed

Brexit: A Guide for the Perplexed

As the UK prepares to begin leaving the EU, what are the key deals to be done? Chris Morris cuts through the jargon to discover how everyone's lives could change.

Bang On It

Bang On It

In this chatty new podcast, comedians Michelle De Swarte and Laura Smyth review their weeks and share what they’re obsessed with, and whether it’s worth your time. Will having cold showers every morning make you a better person? (No, they will make you cold.) Are first class train tickets worth the extra £200 quid? (Sometimes.) Is it possible to upload a selfie to Instagram without looking like a d&*k? (Probably not but won’t stop us trying.) We’re going low brow, we’re going high brow. We’re doing the hard yards so you don’t have to. Producer: Pete Strauss Exec Producer: Rich Morris Production Co-Ordinator: Katie Baum Editor: Calum Sample A BBC Studios Production for Radio 4

Boris

Boris

Adam Fleming explores the life and career of Boris Johnson with people who've known, watched, worked or dealt with him - from boy to man to prime minister.

Breaking Mississippi

Breaking Mississippi

This is the explosive inside story of James Meredith's battle to smash the system of white supremacy in the most racially segregated state in 1960s America. By becoming the first black person to apply to the all-white university of Mississippi - Meredith will draw in the KKK and JFK - and trigger the largest number of troops ever deployed for a single disturbance on US soil. Across 10 episodes and with US public radio journalist Jenn White as our guide - James Meredith takes us from his childhood in rural Mississippi where racism runs deep - to a pivotal flashpoint in US civil rights history that will be described as the last battle of the American Civil War. This could be our last opportunity to hear James Meredith tell this story in his own words and in a way that's never been heard before.

Buried

Buried

A trucker's deathbed tape plays out. It's urgent, desperate. "All you have to do... is dig it up." And so begins a deep-dive into one of the worst environment crimes in UK history: the secret dumping of a million tonnes of waste near a city. But when investigative journalists Dan Ashby and Lucy Taylor uncover missing documents, fears of toxicity and allegations of organised crime, they realise they've stumbled into something much bigger. As they pick at the threads of one crime, they begin to see others. Could Britain be the home of a new mafia, getting rich on our waste? In this thrilling series, a husband-and-wife duo dive into a criminal underworld, all the time following clues left in a deathbed tape. They're driven by one question: what did the man in the tape know?

Brexit: A Love Story?

Brexit: A Love Story?

You know we’re leaving the EU but this is the story of how the UK got here. Mark Mardell uncovers the fractious yet intriguing story of Britain’s relationship with the EU.

Bloodsport

Bloodsport

The story of the systematic doping of the 2012 and 2014 Olympics by the Russian state set against the ongoing attempts to catch the cheats.

Best of Natural History Radio

Best of Natural History Radio

The BBC Natural History Unit produces a wide range of programmes that aim to immerse a listener in the wonder, surprise and importance that nature has to offer.

Beyond Today

Beyond Today

Beyond Today is the daily podcast from Radio 4 that asks one big question about one big story in the news - and beyond. Tina Daheley, Matthew Price, and a team of curious producers search for answers that change the way we see the world. They speak to the BBC’s unrivalled global network of reporters, plus occasional special guests, to tell stories about identity, technology, and power - where it lies and how that is changing.

Body Horror

Body Horror

What price a new body? Welcome to 2050, where the booming transplant industry can cater for all your wildest desires

Body on the Moor

Body on the Moor

A body is found on the moor, with no clue as to who the man was. And he died from poisoning. Who is he? Why was he there? Jon Manel follows the police inquiry for BBC Radio 4.

Bwletin Amaeth

Bwletin Amaeth

Y newyddion ffermio diweddaraf ar BBC Radio Cymru. The latest farming news.

Beti a'i Phobol

Beti a'i Phobol

Beti George yn holi rhai o bobl mwyaf diddorol Cymru. Beti George interviews some of Wales' most interesting people

Bwyta, Cysgu, Crio

Bwyta, Cysgu, Crio

Yn anffodus ‘dyw bod yn rhieni ddim yn dod â chyfarwyddiadau – ond ry’n ni gyd yn gwneud ein gorau glas. Beth Jones, Siôn Tomos Owen a’u gwesteion sy’n trin a thrafod yr holl brofiadau boncyrs o fod yn rhieni a magu plant.

Brown Girls Do It Too

Brown Girls Do It Too

From Dirty Talk to the A to Z of Sex Toys, Poppy and Rubina confess all the funny and intimate details of their sex lives. A South Asian woman still can’t talk openly about her sex life, but Poppy and Rubina are determined to change that, beginning with their own experiences. In this new series of Brown Girls Do It Too, Poppy is continuing on her exploration of non-monogamous dating and Rubina is navigating sex and love as a (relatively) new mother. They continue to break taboos and ask difficult questions such as “Has BDSM become passé?” “Are younger men better in bed?”, or “Is the baby monitor the ultimate mood killer?”. Brown Girls Do it Too is a raucous celebration of sex, love, heartbreak and friendship.

Bitesize Careers

Bitesize Careers

If you’re asking yourself ‘What job can I do?’ the Bitesize Careers podcast is here for you. Katie Thistleton, inspiring guests and career experts will help you find the answers. Whether you're deciding what to study, planning your future career or just curious about the world of work, you can find lots more help and advice at https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/careers.

Black Gold

Black Gold

Stanlow oil refinery has been central to the UK’s industrial strategy for the past 100 years. How has it impacted its local community? And does it have a place in the future?

Bloodlines

Bloodlines

WINNER – BRONZE, GOLD & GRAND TROPHY AT NEW YORK FESTIVALS RADIO AWARDS From BBC Sounds, BBC Asian Network and CBC. Syria. 2018. ISIS is on the brink of defeat. Two-year-old Salmaan disappears amid the bombardment. In London, his grandfather desperately searches for answers. After the war against the Islamic State was won, what became of the children of its fighters? There are thousands of kids like Salmaan, with roots in Canada, the UK, the US and beyond - they were taken to IS or born there. Now they are trapped there without a way back home. Investigative reporter Poonam Taneja has covered the terror group for a decade and now embarks on a dangerous journey to find out what happened to Salmaan and all the kids like him, left behind in the Syrian desert. And she speaks to the grandparents trying to get them home.

Believe in Magic

Believe in Magic

Jamie Bartlett, host of the hit podcast The Missing Crypto queen, is back with another gripping, investigative serial. In his new series, Jamie tells the story of Megan Bhari, an inspirational 16 year old girl who in 2012 launches a charity to grant wishes to seriously ill children. The charity is called Believe in Magic and it attracts the support of the biggest boy band in the world: One Direction. Believe in Magic soon becomes a household name in the child cancer community, putting on parties, sending thoughtful gifts and organizing trips to Disney. Megan is adored by all those she helps and is given an award by the then Prime Minister David Cameron. What’s even more remarkable is that Megan is herself extremely unwell. She announces that she has been diagnosed with a brain tumour. She raises money online for life saving treatment in the United States. But a group of internet sleuths start to suspect that Meg isn’t ill at all. When they discover Megan is in a Disney resort rather than a US hospital, they decide to hire a private detective to prove Megan is faking her illness–and expose the truth to the world. But events take an unexpected turn. And the internet sleuths-who are all parents of seriously ill children themselves-begin to wonder if they've got it all wrong. "It wasn't meant to end like this," says one. Author Jamie Bartlett and producer Ruth Mayer investigate the truth about Megan Bhari, tracing back over the sleuths’ incredible discoveries, meeting Megan’s old friends and supporters, and exploring the medical profession’s most mysterious condition. After months of investigation, Jamie and Ruth discover a secretive investigation into the truth about Megan’s medical condition. The conclusion is shocking–and will have far-reaching consequences for everyone involved. Believe in Magic is a BBC Studios production.

Be More Warrior

Be More Warrior

Paul Olima, athlete and Coach on BBC Three’s Go Hard or Go Home, helps you start your fitness journey with tips and techniques from his fellow fitness experts (aka ‘warriors’) including: Athlete and psychologist, Adele Nicoll – Former professional footballer and endurance athlete, Ashley Cain – Former international rugby player, Heather Fisher – MMA fighter, Leah McCourt – Olympic, World and Commonwealth gymnast, Nile Wilson – Celebrity personal trainer, Tyrone Brennand – Lead fitness instructor for Equinox, Waz Ashayer – Former Irish International Rugby player, Greg O’Shea – Fitness instructor, CiCi Coleman Go Hard or Go Home is available now on BBC Three and iPlayer: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0f1jp1l/episodes/player The purpose of this podcast is to educate and entertain, all opinions expressed during this podcast are conversational in nature and do not constitute professional advice. Please consult your healthcare practitioner before starting any new exercise program.

Blossom Trees and Burnt Out Cars

Blossom Trees and Burnt Out Cars

Talia Randall talks to the nature-loving pioneers who are smashing down the barriers–visible and invisible–that keep so many of us locked out of green space. From a park in Glasgow, to a beach in Cornwall and a Traveller site by an A road in London. Nature can help us work out who we are. Take Ione, a British-Mexican land worker who finally understood what it meant to have a mixed identity when she saw a Mexican plant growing in English soil. As a kid, Talia broke into the nature reserve on her council estate. Some call this trespassing, others call it playing out. Which children are allowed to play in nature freely and which kids are seen as a threat? Now that Talia isn’t that kid anymore, she reflects on her own relationship to nature, has it changed as her class has?

Building Queertopia

Building Queertopia

Chelcee Grimes and Shane Jenek (Courtney Act) invite a guest on each week and ask what they would add to build their perfect queer utopia. What’s your big idea for Queertopia? What would we do for fun? What would we bring from our current world to Queertopia? With help from you our queertopian citizens and our guests, we create the perfect society for all lifeforms to be their true selves. Everyone is welcome in Queertopia.

Beauty Fix with Naomi Shimada

Beauty Fix with Naomi Shimada

Model and author Naomi Shimada meets the people from the world of fashion and beauty who know how to get their beauty fix, while showing that beauty is anything but fixed. Naomi lifts the filter on selfies and self-care, with models, influencers and campaigners, all fixing broken beauty standards in their own way.

Blood on the Tracks

Blood on the Tracks

Colin Murray gathers together four music obsessives to debate and argue their favourite tracks.

Books To Live By… with Mariella Frostrup

Books To Live By… with Mariella Frostrup

Hear about the books that have shaped the lives of globally celebrated movers and shakers, as Mariella visits them in their homes, hotels and dressing rooms to find out why their reading matters.

BBC Radio Wolverhampton update

BBC Radio Wolverhampton update

A snapshot of the news, sport and weather in your area, as well stories of people making a difference during the coronavirus pandemic.

Behind The Goals

Behind The Goals

Scotland Internationalists Rachel Corsie and Leanne Crichton with their unique take on the World of Football plus interviews with the biggest names in the Women’s game.

BBC Lê

BBC Lê

A equipe da BBC lê para você algumas de suas melhores reportagens.

Brasil Partido

Brasil Partido

João Fellet tenta entender como brasileiros chegaram ao grau atual de divisão.

Between the Ears

Between the Ears

Innovative and thought-provoking features that make adventurous use of sound and explore a wide variety of subjects. Made by leading radio producers.

Britten 100

Britten 100

Britten 100. Highlights from Radio 3’s Britten centenary weekend in Aldeburgh with special features, interviews and on location reports recorded in Suffolk.

BBC Proms Music Guide

BBC Proms Music Guide

In this set of free downloads, BBC Radio 3 presenters introduce a key composer and work featured in BBC Prom concerts.

Brexit Britain

Brexit Britain

How is Brexit Britain affecting your life? Six people’s personal views on what’s happening to the UK, recorded as they go about their normal lives.

BBC Introducing in Oxfordshire & Berkshire

BBC Introducing in Oxfordshire & Berkshire

Listen to highlights of Dave Gilyeat and his team of new music aficionados as they deliver all the best Oxfordshire and Berkshire bands you've never heard before.

BBC Music Introducing Mixtape

BBC Music Introducing Mixtape

An hour of fresh new tunes from BBC Music Introducing handpicked by Tom Robinson each week in the early hours of Monday morning.

Beag air Bheag

Beag air Bheag

Prògram do luchd-ionnsachaidh na Gàidhlig le Iain Urchardan. John Urquhart guides learners through some of the intricacies of the Gaelic language.

Blades, Sweat and Tears

Blades, Sweat and Tears

Behind the scenes access with the GB Rowing Team as they strive for Olympic glory. From the gym to the canteen, boathouse to training camps, follow the team from start to success. Originally broadcast on BBC Radio Berkshire.

But…Where Are You Really From?

But…Where Are You Really From?

Meet Eshaan, Sunil and Nim - each week they'll be putting comedic guests through their desi paces. Join them as they answer the pointed question "But...Where Are You Really From?"

Bats, Bails & Biryani

Bats, Bails & Biryani

Some say it’s bigger than football while others believe it’s bigger than religion! The one thing everyone agrees is millions of Asians throughout the world are totally obsessed with the phenomenon called cricket. In Bats Bails & Biriyani, super fan Noreen Khan goes around the wicket as the Cricket World Cup 2019 arrives in England and Wales. Joining her on the team sheet is cricket guru Nikesh Rughani. Each week during the tournament, they bring a fresh team out to chat about the love, the passion, the rivalry and the biryani!

BBC 時事一周 Newsweek (Cantonese)

BBC 時事一周 Newsweek (Cantonese)

Key events of the week reviewed in this Cantonese programme. In the special features, BBC correspondents, contributors and listeners present the world from different angles.

Britain at Sea

Britain at Sea

Admiral Lord West tells the story of the Royal Navy during the 20th century.

BBC Africa Debate

BBC Africa Debate

Current issues that matter to Africa go under discussion and are brought to the attention of a global audience. Each month an invited audience engages robustly with a distinguished international panel to help inform global perceptions of the continent. If it matters to Africa, we shall debate it in Africa.